The deck could be upgraded a lot and leave budget ofcourse. Is Lab man in hand or on the field? Despite this, there is one thing in common in almost every construction of our Esper friend: a big panic button called Consultation Combo (if everything goes wrong, we will still have hope for a simple and effective combo). Many times if I have Kess out and interaction and Consultation in my hand, I will use Consultation EOT for LabMan and then LabMan->Consultation->Cantrip for the win. Basically you cast this naming Lab man, your deck is done, you get him on the field (if he is not already), cast a card like Gitaxian probe and you have won. Demonic Consultation and Thasa's Oracle seems to be a large issue as well They are. For case 3, someone is about to go off, if you do not stop them now you know you are dead and have lost. I've seen a ton of cEDH games because I participated in them years ago and have a large contingent of cEDH players at my local store. Jim: Flash was a templating mistake. Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? • [[Doomsday]] stacks: Tainted Pact 5. This is functional due to the ruling that The Chain Veil’s ability applies to future instances of planeswalkers, so if you activate it three times with the first Teferi, th… Since 1972, CEDH trained more than 30 000 health professionals, by 170 doctors, in 27 countries That's it for today. Disse deck forsøger at vinde igennem Laboratory Maniac eller Jace, Wielder of Mysteries og trække kort med et tomt bibliotek. This is my view on how the card should be/is used. Consultation Kess is a resilient cEDH deck that ultimately aims to win with Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries.The cards Demonic Consultation (the namesake of the deck) and Tainted Pact have fantastic synergy with Kess. * COMMANDERS * Nowadays, they are no longer used, thanks to the number of slots they occupy and the dependence on certain circumstances during the game, but the most famous stack was made up of [[Gush]], [[Lion's Eye Diamond]], [[Gitaxian Probe]], [[Yawgmoth's Will]] and [[Laboratory Maniac]]. [[Demonic Consultation]] is used in all Tier 1 cEDH tournament decks with [[Laboratory Maniac]] as the kill, the most high profile of which are [[Doomsday]] decks. They've made me more comfortable with Demonic Consultation as a win condition and I've started to re-examine some of my Doomsday deck to see if Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact lines wouldn't be more efficient. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} ... of cards from your deck means you’re actually rewarded for playing the ‘forbidden tutors’ like Tainted Pact and Demonic Consultation, mitigating their primary downside of exiling a bunch of your stuff. This article belongs to the series The most popular archetypes of the cEDH: 2. You'll get it and be fine at least 2/3rds of the time, depending on deck construction and your number of wincons. Usually though, I make sure I can get to Prossh if I miss one of the exile cast creatures because with Food Chain hitting that mana is not too difficult. 4. 5. It represents a 1-card combo of Demonic Consultation->LabMan->Demonic Consultation (the odds of exiling LabMan are slim) or Intuition for Demonic Consultation, Laboratory Maniac, Unearth. 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An extensive induction of incredibly overpowered cards would push the format towards a place of either playing the new sauce or losing miserably while your opponent casts a 5c Food Chain commander that you can sacrifice to activate a Demonic Consultation effect. It is furthermore a decent enough tutor if your deck is not reliant on many cards to win and does not mind losing a chunk of the deck. * THE COMBO * .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} 10/1/2008: If you don’t reveal the named card (perhaps because it was in the top six cards of your library), you’ll end up exiling your entire library. Those who read last week's article are not surprised by the presence of this friend here, as well as they would not do it for [[General Tazri]] and [[Niv-Mizzet Reborn]]. The cEDH Archetypes #05 - Hatebears. [image](https://cdn.cardsrealm.com/images/cartas/en/eld-throne-of-eldraine/kenrith-the-returned-king-303.jpeg?6172) The card over performed in every situation i needed it in. Talking about our beloved mage, she is undoubtedly one of those who most benefit from using the Consult-Pact duo. Few weeks ago I had one piece of the Bomberman combo, and enough mana to make it happen, so I played my Consultation and won. cEDH might just be the future of Commander. It was nuts as 3-of in the Summer's Night deck in MTG Worlds 1999. This is very safe, and sometimes you really need a land. The cEDH Archetypes #06 - Thieves and Wheels. This course will enable students to: To put it simple, in a highly competitive game it is easier to have a combo where we can win with effects like the one from [[Laboratory Maniac]] than to generate a fancy board and take advantage of it, especially in a format where games are much faster if compared to casual games. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} Even if you only need the Laboratory Maniac, what do you do if it happens to be in your top six cards and you exile it? One time i even consultation for an overgrown tomb and won with 15 cards left in my library because i had a riftsweeper effect to get back whatever i ended up needing that turn. Definitely best used in Consultation Kess lists. The cEDH Archetypes #08 - Extra Combats, 9. Weekly Metagame - Is Magic Healthy Again ? I know the card is good, but I've seen someone at my LGS mill almost their entire deck -- including all their win conditions -- on their way down to Food Chain... twice, in one night. This is a subreddit dedicated to playing the Commander format of Magic: The Gathering at the highest power level possible. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase;display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} The cEDH archetypes #02 - Demonic Consultation, 3. 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A sans-white version of the typically sans-red Oracle decks. I leave, however, one more alternative for combaters on duty who do not want to spend a lot on the deck: a deck without creatures and with some token generators go very well with [[Divergent Transformations]], a card to which you can draw [[Leveler]] and [[Thassa's Oracle]] of the deck to give an effect similar to Consultation (in the case of a higher expense, [[Spellseeker]] takes the place of [[Leveler]] when sending one of the prohibited tutors to the hand) . And to close our commanders today, we are going with a man who has barely arrived and I already consider him to be family. A deck with an infinite mana outlet like Breya in the command zone does not mind if your deck gets exciled in exchange for the last missing combo piece. • Another form of exile: In Food Chain decks like Prossh and Tazri, there should be ample enough win conditions that you don't exile them all on the way to Food Chain. 3) Risky tutor. As aforementioned, a good deck description can go a long way. You do not have much to lose by grabbing the card you know will have the best chance of stopping them and keep the game moving if you really do not want to lose. I mostly have used it to grab lands. $6.99. Welcome back to cEDH 101! If you hit Squee the Immortal, Eternal Scourge, or for Tazri Misthollow Griffin as well, you just got two cards you needed for {B}, and should be near a spot to win, if not about to. 11. You mostly play Demonic Consultation as either a last resort (fetch pact/FoW/.. and pray) or with the intention of winning (huge surprise). It is extremely risky not to try and tutor a win condition you are missing, but you could be desperate enough to use this as a last ditch save the game card to stop someone else from winning. I usually cast this if I have combo protection in hand, cast it on the endstep before my turn, and try to win ideally, but may have to go looking for Squee or Eternal Scourge as well if I cant make the mana to reach a Prossh cast. Uhhh don't you need to have Lab-Man in play? ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} Until next time, my friends! I feel like this line makes you lose on your draw step if you have Lab-Man in hand. [image](https://cdn.cardsrealm.com/images/cartas/en/c17-commander-2017/kess-dissident-mage-39.jpeg?7325) There are three ways this card can be used. In this way, there is also no reason not to add a Jace or an Oracle to complement the formula. But that’s not what Commander Legends is. Tap Mana crypt, and sac Lotus Petal for 1U to play Lab Man, tap Underground Sea to cast Demonic Consultation, and pay 2 life to cast Gitaxian Probe = GG, and you have the Pact for a possible Force of Will. The cEDH archetypes #02 - Demonic Consultation, The cEDH archetypes #03 - Underworld Storm, The cEDH Archetypes #04 - Aetherflux Storm, The cEDH Archetypes #06 - Thieves and Wheels. Demonic Consultation gets used in combination with Laboratory Maniac most commonly. Lab Man is in hand or on the field and you are trying to win. The cEDH archetypes #03 - Underworld Storm, 4. Demonic Consultation is one of my favorite cards in that deck. 3 is if one of us feels like being spiteful/stop the other because we have our win conditions and want to be the one to win. shipping: + $4.00 shipping . It is a little difficult to talk about the commanders who take advantage of the Consultation strategy to shine, since it is compact enough to enter any type of deck (from the most all in, to the controls). 2. 20% chance of exiling wincons; mitigated by drawing them or casting Tazri. Edit: Usually named [[Johnny, Combo Player]] for lulz. All Rights Reserved. We can conclude with today's arguments that it combines consistency with compactness, necessary for any high-level game. Demonic Consultation is a bigger problem. There are variants of how case 2 happens like in doomsday, or just straight using lab man to win. We can also choose to add other forms of exile to increase deck's redundancy for our combo. The cEDH Archetypes #11 - Infinite Mana. Q#1 basically hits FCT on the spot. This deck also uses the omnipresent Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact package for an alternate win enabler. We have combined both sessions here since they are filled with the variations mentioned above. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. * VARIATIONS * Kess herself allows us one of the most unfair lines of the entire archetype: we stabilize the table during the game with our Grixis deck and, when appropriate, we use one of the tutors naming either Jace or the Oracle to then play them and reuse the tutors in the cemetery, thus ending the game. It's the price you pay for consulting with demons. The CEDH course is open to DO’s, MD’s, Midwives, Nurses, ND’s, PA’s, and Pharmacists. Note: in the pictures Tainted Pact & Demonic Consultation are still in KMC Perfect Fits from when I had them double sleeved. Magic: The Gathering and its respective properties are copyright Wizards of the Coast. I wondered the same thing as OP for a long time until i started playing fc prossh. The cEDH Archetypes #04 - Aetherflux Storm, 6. The latter takes us back to ancient times in the cEDH, before Jace or Oracle. cedh It is no coincidence that the Consultation archetype dominates the format. The same applies as with most winconditions: You go for the win if you assume that your opponents cannot interact with you or are sure that you are going to come out ahead in a counterwar. It seems like the definition of risk/reward. Since we use combo pieces that can work from exile, there is no reason why we don't use our Forbidden Tutors to dig [[Food Chain]] and already exile a [[Eternal Scourge]] in the process. Zur is one of the favorites from players outside Brazil and it is no coincidence. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The risk of whiffing yourself out of the game was high enough that I didn't want to use it. MTG Judge Promo REPACK Mox Opal Demonic Tutor Rhystic Studies PLEASE READ REPACK. The idea was to have a stack of five cards that, together and in sequence, could lead us to victory. It's an idea to cast a creature at instant speed. We're gonna go over them all. … 1 Flooded Strand | Praia Inundada, 1 Underground Sea | Underground Sea, 1 Mountain | Montanha, 1 Arid Mesa | Meseta Árida, 1 Bloodstained Mire | Lamaçal Ensanguentado, 1 Verdant Catacombs | Catacumbas Verdejantes, 1 Wooded Foothills | Contraforte Arborizado, 1 Tarnished Citadel | Cidadela Opaca, 1 Volcanic Island | Volcanic Island, 1 Ancient Tomb | Tumba Antiga, 1 Blood Crypt | … You don’t lose the game at that point, but will lose the next time you’re instructed to draw a card. The cEDH Archetypes #07 - Taking Turns. Also, as mentioned, Intuition in Kess makes a winning pile with Unearth/LabMan/Consultation. As you can see, when we refer to Forbidden Tutors, we are talking about [[Demonic Consultation]] and [[Tainted Pact]], which are referred to in such a way as they are considered all in cards. This course is designed for physicians who would like to expand their daily practice and need answers to questions that often come up in today’s medical practice. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander Kess, Dissident Mage - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Lab maniac, or a risky tutor. There are no major mana sinks, so I don't see the point of infinite mana. 1 Demonic Consultation from Ice Age. This removes all your library from the game and you win on draw step. 05/14/20 Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Divergent Control//Stax Zur//Rakdos Loops. Magic the Gathering Resources, Tools, Previews, and Community. Seconding this. The CEDH course is open to MD’s, DO’s, PA’s, NP’s, Midwives and Pharmacist. The cEDH Archetypes #07 - Taking Turns, 8. Has anyone tried this in EDH? 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Noble Hierarch 6. One deck that utilizes pact and demonic consultation well is 5 color food chain tazri, I forget the numbers, but the odds of exiling food chain off the top 6 is low, you run limduls vault, and I would say the proper time to cast consultation is when you are able to win, and atleast 1 players shields are down. When you have Lab-Man in hand or in play you cast Demonic Consultation EOT before your turn naming a card not in your deck. Breya player here. Nekusar cEDH by Casually Competitive. I'm trying to build a control Tazri deck without using demonic consultation or tainted pact. The cEDH archetypes #01 - Food Chain. This removes all your library from the game and you win on draw step. 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The first thing I thought for the variations of our combo was to talk about the idea of Sushi Hulk, however, with the ban of [[Flash]], our combo with [[Protean Hulk]] was practically extinct from the format (rest in peace, old friend). Spellseeker can get either Tainted Pact or Demonic Consultation or any relevant 2 cmc or less … So the questions I'm asking are, 1) what kind of deck wants Demonic Consultation on top of Tainted Pact, Tutors and Lim-Dul's Vault, and 2) how do you know when it's the right time to use Demonic Consultation in play? • [[Ad Nauseam]] + [[Angel's Grace]]: (cEDH) 3 weeks ago. How are you? Second, if you need something to win, or prevent someone else from winning, just consult for it. The idea here is to buy all the cards in our library for some effect which commonly will come in exchange for our life. It is a great card for competitive play because it gets around cards like Aven mindcensor and Stranglehold to start. 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You can consistently pull off turn 0 kills with it. 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[cardinfo](Tainted Pact) [[Kess, Dissident Mage]] combos with Consultation and Tainted Pact immediately with a cantip. As for knowing when to cast this is a little trickier. You can also win on the spot with any cantrip. 75% chance of hitting a cast-from-exile before Food Chain. 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A more concise way to state what I a trying to say might be to grab Food Chain itself, or combo protection if Food Chain is in hand to go off and win with. [image](https://cdn.cardsrealm.com/images/cartas/en/mh1-modern-horizons/the-first-sliver-200.jpeg?840) {B} to put a card into hand is fantastic regardless of what anti draw/tutoring effects are in play is great, but before then might end up killing you or hurting you too much in my opinion. The cEDH Archetypes #04 - Aetherflux Storm. The cEDH archetypes #02 - Demonic Consultation. Afterwards, I thought of other possible derivations for the same decks, in order to separate them into three large groups: 6.66% chance of it being in the top 6 of a 90 card library. However, I think that if your Consultation whiffs, you just hunt down another win con--in my Kess list, that would be the Splinter Twin kill. Demonic Consultation 3. The cEDH Archetypes #11 - Infinite Mana. Seedborn Muse 4. 3c somewhat turbo deck where the goal is to overwhelm your opponents with card advantage and typically end the game by assembling Thassa’s Oracle +Demonic Consultation /Tainted Pact or Glint-Horn Buccaneer as a one card combo with Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator . 8. When your main goal is finding a single combo piece to win, its worth it 99% of the time. Mystic Remora 7. Temur Sabertooth if dockside makes 5 plus mana that goes infinte draw your deck with Thrasios, Triton Hero. ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} Commander Legends is a well-balanced set. It's a fine play in those cases. This makes the First Sliver-Food Chain gameplan extremely resilient. 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Played TnT Doomtide for a while and this became a more potent wincon than actually casting Doomsday in many cases. Its built based on a control shell that adds up with the ability to reuse the graveyard. My name is Fogaça and I'm here to talk about Commander. The cEDH Archetypes #09 - Birthing Pod Lines. Demonic Consultation, Borderless Hand Painted MTG Alter ... Null Rod Altered Full Art MTG Magic Commander cEDH Borderless Artifact . [image](https://cdn.cardsrealm.com/images/cartas/en/mm3-modern-masters-2017/zur-the-enchanter-204.jpeg?5123) Man kan tømme sit bibliotek igennem Demonic consultation eller Tainted Pact. This course will enable students to: Consultation Consultation decks får deres navn fra kortet Demonic consultation. Join Sickrobot and Special Guests Wedge, Sugandaraja and Redshift as they take a look at Demonic Consultation and the Archetype it defines, as well as a deep dive on the Kess Consultation build. Thanks for all the replies. However, there are some outstanding commanders for their efficiency in enjoying these combinations. His unique role as a tutor coming the command zone gives us a malleability for his builds, alternating between approaches totally all in or control-stax. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.8fe90067a922ef36d4b6.css.map*/Doomsday - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. For Lab Man wins, you cast this with the intention of exiling your entire library for {B}. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} It seems your win condition is some kind of Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Demonic Consultation. So, you can just play it like a tutor, at least in some cases. In addition, the fact that combos like this require few pieces, which have low mana cost and also generate value individually, provides great consistency, and, consequently, much popularity for the archetype. © 2018 by Cards Realm. This course is designed for practitioners who would like to expand their daily practice and need answers to questions that often come up in today’s medical practice. The cEDH archetypes #03 - Underworld Storm. When you have Lab-Man in hand or in play you cast Demonic Consultation EOT before your turn naming a card not in your deck. When you have Lab-Man in hand or in play you cast Demonic Consultation EOT before your turn naming a card not in your deck. In prossh in particular u can exile ur own squee and then cast him from exile with fc, same with misthollow and eternal scourge in other decks. (99 cards, 75 distinct) - Sylvan Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Worldly Tutor, Carpet of Flowers, Demonic Consultation, Noxious Revival, Dance of the Dead Some other options come with [[Bolas's Citadel]] + [[Sensei's Divining Top]] or using [[Angel of Grace]]. 7. This does carry some risk of backfiring but more often than not it will work in your favor. First, if you're running 7 or more islands, you can tutor for an island. As I previously said, it gets around effects that stop traditional tutoring. What now? The cEDH Archetypes #09 - Birthing Pod Lines. 1 Tainted Pact from Odyssey. I recently built Shimmer Zur and I'm thinking of upgrading it to Tainted Shimmer Zur. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} What it actually ended up being after quite a few rounds of errata was a way to get creature into play and out of play before anyone had an opportunity to respond to it being on the battlefield. Kenrith is here to represent all 4C or 5C decks that simply run Consultation to add a consistent finisher to their build, so as not to have any specifics related to the Consultation or the Pact in their lists made to generate value. Good Afternoon cEDH subreddit =). The Chain Veil + Teferi, Temporal Archmage (as your Commander) + Mana Sources This combo uses Teferi’s -1, along with The Chain Veil and 5 mana (including two Blue mana) across three permanents to create unbounded mana of whatever type the permanents can produce. Drannith Magistrate 8. Pirate Smash is a B.A.D. In any case it's best to use it when you are certain to get a good hit, usually with the help of manipulation. Hello my friends! So for cases (1) and (2), you cast it basically to try and close out the game, because it is extremely good at that. In Tainted Shimmer it is a beastly Tutor when you are about to go off. Demonic Consultation Gitaxian Probe Pact of Negation Play Underground Sea, Mana Crypt, and Lotus Petal. Lab man victories. Today's idea is to continue the article on [[Food Chain]] and talk about how the Forbidden Tutors affect the format, and with that, we understand why UBx decks have been dominating the meta for a long time. [[Demonic Consultation]] is used in all Tier 1 cEDH tournament decks with [[Laboratory Maniac]] as the kill, the most high profile of which are [[Doomsday]] decks. * HONORABLE MENTIONS AND BUDGET ALTERNATIVES * For Food Chain decks, usually you want combo protection in hand before casting this. It's always been one of my favorites in 4-card formats, but I'm not sure about the risk here. It's not as good as you think. Demonic Consultation - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Laboratory Maniac - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Effects like [[Plunge into Darkness]], [[Leveler]] and [[Necropotence]] are useful for removing unwanted cards from the library. Details about Demonic Consultation, Borderless Hand Painted MTG Alter. Cases 1 and 2 are how he and I tend to use the card. Last week I came to you with a new approach, in order to explain how the main strategies of the cEDH work, to introduce new players to the format and to review the decks and staples with the old players. This is the current list I've come up with. All the cards for this decks gameplan and combo are on a budget. I ask you to leave your feedback so that we can always improve. The series aims to address only part of an entire sphere that covers an extremely diverse format, so I invite you to subscribe to my [link](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyqfJp8MNsmyE89F2ALRYrg)(YouTube channel), where I talk more about Commander, not only competitive, but also in other varieties, as well as about other formats. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} A great example for a deck that wants to play Demonic Consultation is Kess. 《Demonic Consultation》がサーチのしやすいインスタントであることもコンボの安定に一役買っています。 ・ジェネラルへの依存度が低い デモコン寿司におけるケスの役割は、2枚コンボを1枚コンボへと変えることです。 The correct answer is always [[approach of the second sun], New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CompetitiveEDH community. You don’t name a card until Demonic Consultation resolves. .Rd5g7JmL4Fdk-aZi1-U_V{transition:all .1s linear 0s}._2TMXtA984ePtHXMkOpHNQm{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:4px}.CneW1mCG4WJXxJbZl5tzH{border-top:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-line);margin-top:16px;padding-top:16px}._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{transition:all .1s linear 0s;display:none;fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:middle;margin-bottom:2px;margin-left:4px;cursor:pointer}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover ._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{display:inline-block}._33CSUrVoafEXJUDX3qOQtf{height:12px;width:12px;margin-bottom:2px;margin-right:4px;vertical-align:middle;fill:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs{border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B.IeceazVNz_gGZfKXub0ak,._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk{margin-top:25px;left:-9px}._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:focus-within,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:hover{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border:none;padding:8px 8px 0}._25yWxLGH4C6j26OKFx8kD5{display:inline}._1i46tE0yFLStZBdRfHnYIa{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;margin-top:4px;margin-bottom:8px}._2YsVWIEj0doZMxreeY6iDG,._1i46tE0yFLStZBdRfHnYIa{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2YsVWIEj0doZMxreeY6iDG{padding:4px 6px}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);margin-right:8px;margin-left:auto;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-errorText)}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg,._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{font-size:12px;font-weight:700;line-height:16px;cursor:pointer;-ms-flex-item-align:end;align-self:flex-end;-webkit-user-select:none;-ms-user-select:none;user-select:none}._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq{font-weight:700;color:#ff4500;text-transform:uppercase;margin-right:4px}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq,.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-weight:400;-ms-flex-preferred-size:100%;flex-basis:100%;margin-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX{margin-top:6px}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._3MAHaXXXXi9Xrmc_oMPTdP{margin-top:4px} *CONCLUSION* Than actually casting Doomsday in many cases 04 - Aetherflux Storm, 6 Pact of Negation play Sea! 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